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Posted by devo on March 2, 2009

olympic volleyballThe official ball of Volleyball Australia is the Mikasa. The AVF announced the Mikasa sponsorship back in March 08.

After some time in negotiations with several companies wishing to be the official ball supplier to the AVF, the deal has finally been signed with Mikasa for the next three years.  This means that Mikasa will be recognised as the official ball supplier at all AVF sanctioned events approved under the agreement.

That statement went on to say: Under the umbrella agreement, the states also have the opportunity to sign a member state agreement and brand their own events with Mikasa.

Volleyball Victoria decided to go with an offer from Molten. The statement seems to suggest that going with Mikasa was optional. But apparently that is not the case.

I have had a steady stream of correspondents over the last 6 weeks, some claiming to have spoken to AVF board members; some claiming to have spoken to VVI board members.

These correspondents have been telling me that Volleyball Australia is not happy. And that they have told Volleyball Victoria that. My correspondents tell me that the AVF board has chosen to sanction VVI for not complying with the Charter, and that a “please explain” letter was sent by the AVF board. Some sources are saying that VVI has received a fine, some say they have been threatened with a fine. The sum varies. But no official sources are commenting on that.

VVI’s Terry Jones says: The AVF official ball is Mikasa and the VVI official ball is Molten. We are confident that both products can co exist and any issues between us will be resolved through open and continuing dialogue.

Let’s hope this is the case. Otherwise Vic Volleyballers are going to have to find some more fees. I guess we will all have to wait and see what Volleyball Victoria’s response will be. Certainly, they are not about to give up their Molten sponsorship.

Will they pay the fine? What will the AVF board do if they don’t?

17 Responses to “Balls”

  1. ScottL said

    To what extent do the sums vary?

  2. Dinosaur said

    Bottom line is the ‘Top End’ Vic players will be inconvenienced by this!

    When they get to Junior Nationals and AVL (senior players especially rely on touch and familiarity with the ball) they will not have had the touches with this very different looking and feeling ball.

    VVI once again showing they are not overly concerned with their elite older players!

  3. robboinniseko said

    we’ll be using the Mikasa balls for trainings and warmup at Falcons so we’ll have to wait and see the effect this has on our game….

  4. Jase Pallant said

    Does this mean that at the Vic Schools cup they will play with Molten but at national schools up they will play with Mikasa?
    Cause we just bought 20 or so new Mikasas for Billanook to train with.

    • devo said

      All AVF matches will be Mikasa; all VVI matches will be Molten. At least under the present sponsorships.

    • Robbo said

      Yeah Jase, thats correct. Bit hard to deal with isn’t it?

      • Jase Pallant said

        Well yeah, I was always a believer in the whole if you’re good you’re good, the ball shouldn’t make a difference idea, but the new mikasa is so different from all the moltens that we thought we would give our kids every chance by training with the new ball to get used to it. If vic schools cup, and state league, are going to be molten thats going to be interesting.

  5. Phill DeSalvo said

    I think that the mikasa is harder to play with. So why not train with that anyway and then it will be easier to play with when you go back to the molten.
    At the start of the season here in Germany we were training with the new mikasa. After training with this ball every day for about a month we went to Finnland and played in a tournament with the old mikasa. To me it felt great to go back to the old mikasa and a lot easier to play with even though I hadnt trained with it at all. I think that the molten is another step down and easier to play with again. So although not the perfect situation, I dont think it would be that bad to train with the new mikasa and play with the molten.

  6. Caveman said

    So now out comes the various likes and DISlikes of various people who are used to a particular ball. VVI is using molten for now …what about when its contract finishes ?
    In my view Mikasa is the better ball, its cheaper and lasts longer.
    The new Mikasa balls are made with the view of slowing down the mens game which we know are made up of very short rallies.
    The FiVB have been trying to slow it down for years now in order for the Television rights to be profitable.
    Short rallies mean less TV sponsorship money, the new ball “floats” and does take some getting used to but this has the effect of slowing down the mens game, because it is not just dig.. set…spike. It is a contest to drop the ball short (or long) on serve, or move it to the left (or right) the player must adjust him or herself accordingly.
    This then makes volleyball a contest again …rather than who has the more powerful of spikers. Coaches have been trying things to catch people out (anyone ever heard of a Strategy board) … now some people don’t like the ball doing it to them. When Molten came into the mainstream of Volleyball 30 years ago it was not because it was a better ball than Mikasa or Tachikara (the main balls of the day) it was because there was only one ball in the range (IV58L) and it sold for $18.00 !!!
    There was one other reason the person who imported it into Australia was Eric Hayman the then head of the VAVA (Victorian Amatuer Volleyball Association) and more importantly head of the AVF …within 6 months of its introduction no other ball was used anywhere in Australia.

    • Phillip DeSalvo said

      Maybe the idea that was put out about the new ball was that is was suppose to be slower. I believe that the new ball can be hit harder and still land in the field of play than the old ball. I find now that the jump serves float and still land in – from more people then just dave Fergo – not nice at anything over 100 km/h.
      I did hear another opinion that was that the new mikasa was made this way to make reception worse. It makes sense if you think about it. A reception that the setter can’t play the quick attack off gives the defence a better chance (therefore giving the rally a longer duration and better for tv).
      I don’t believe that the new ball is slower and there is no way that it is easier to defend. In international volleyball a giant hitting the ball at max power is a giant hitting at max power. It’s not going to get easier to defend unless we start playing with balloons.

      Caveman – I like the fact that you thought about how long the ball is going to last for. Not something I think of when playing for a pro team because I dont have to chip in for the cost of new balls. However, a very important aspect when in a club in Australia. No club wants to buy new balls every season. I think the new mikasa will stay close to new for a long time. We started the season 7 months ago with new mikasas and trained with them 6 days a week and they still seem like new balls to me now.
      I am not trying to argue with anyones points. I just thought that I would throw my 2 cents in.

  7. Paterico said

    Based on a before and after posted on this site before Christmas, it doesn’t look like they last all too long going through machines. Not that lots of clubs / academies have them!

  8. Caveman said

    Paterico
    I have a question for you …. which brand /type of volleyball lasts long going through a ball machine ???
    Here is the answer … NONE !!!

    • Paterico said

      True! Some say the leather ones don’t load up the wheels as much as the synthetics. I want one of those ones that uses air! They look cool! They have ones that can launch basketballs half a court length with accuracy! http://www.aircatvolleyball.com/works.cfm

      • Caveman said

        Paterico
        Cool or not, at the “basic” price of $3995 USD, and with the exchange rate that it is at the moment I severely doubt the necessity for one of these units.
        The money could be better spent elsewhere.

        • Robbo said

          Yeah the price is a little excessive. I’m halfway through building my own serving machine. Just stuck at some machining issues at the moment. Hoping to get it running soon :D

        • Paterico said

          I agree. I wonder how many are actually out there being used.

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